Comments on: Firefox 2.0 now has Safe Browsing http://cow.neondragon.net/index.php/1071-Firefox-20-Now-Has-Safe-Browsing Helping you to get the most out of modern technology and communications since 2004. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:48:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Xeen http://cow.neondragon.net/index.php/1071-Firefox-20-Now-Has-Safe-Browsing/comment-page-1#comment-651 Xeen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-651 <p>Ok thanks, now I finally believe it's GFox 2.0. Suggest sucks and "safe browsing" doesn't help at all if it works by blocking known URLs. They spread in seconds and I guess it takes at least 1 day to update these URLs if you're not looking them up on-the-fly. So, it is completely useless.</p><p>Making Firefox better doesn't work by including annoying or useless Google extensions. So why should I switch to Firefox 2.0 except for security fixes? Spell check is the only reason so far, but I can happily live without it. If it stays that way, I won't switch and warn everyone before switching. I really hope it gets some bad press so that they for FSM's sake stop going that direction. </p><p>Probably new users will like those anti-features because they don't really work with their computer but enter a world of facinating things which somehow work. However, the more advanced users find these features quite annoying and many of them are creating or maintaining extensions - and if they quit, Firefox will die, sooner or later. </p><p> If they move on like this, it won't take long for tools/extensions like firefox-antispy to turn all the annoying options off. And once that state is reached, Firefox is nothing more but a tool out of a thousands. That works ok or better than the others, but isn't "the one". This makes me sad.</p><p>xeen </p> Ok thanks, now I finally believe it’s GFox 2.0. Suggest sucks and "safe browsing" doesn’t help at all if it works by blocking known URLs. They spread in seconds and I guess it takes at least 1 day to update these URLs if you’re not looking them up on-the-fly. So, it is completely useless.

Making Firefox better doesn’t work by including annoying or useless Google extensions. So why should I switch to Firefox 2.0 except for security fixes? Spell check is the only reason so far, but I can happily live without it. If it stays that way, I won’t switch and warn everyone before switching. I really hope it gets some bad press so that they for FSM’s sake stop going that direction. 

Probably new users will like those anti-features because they don’t really work with their computer but enter a world of facinating things which somehow work. However, the more advanced users find these features quite annoying and many of them are creating or maintaining extensions – and if they quit, Firefox will die, sooner or later. 

 If they move on like this, it won’t take long for tools/extensions like firefox-antispy to turn all the annoying options off. And once that state is reached, Firefox is nothing more but a tool out of a thousands. That works ok or better than the others, but isn’t "the one". This makes me sad.

xeen 

]]> By: Khlo http://cow.neondragon.net/index.php/1071-Firefox-20-Now-Has-Safe-Browsing/comment-page-1#comment-655 Khlo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-655 <p>I don't think Firefox 2.0 is too bad. The rendering engine and the 95% of the browser which is inherited from Firefox 1.5 is second to none.  Feed Reader and Microsummaries are beautiful. Spell checking is also a fantastic feature which can save a lot of time. And the tabbed browsing improvements are great.<br /></p><p>The safe browsing feature doesn't feel right but in it's defense it has just landed and I have no doubt the Firefox guys are going to review it, fiddle with it and by the time it reaches the end user it'll be great.</p><p>I hope that they'll find the Google Suggest feature is superfluous and damages usability. I mean the guys at Firefox have never let us down; during the early stages of Firefox 1.5 I really hated it, but once the bugs were fixed it was a fantastic world-class browser.</p><p>All this Google integration is dangerous though, as you say. </p><p> </p> I don’t think Firefox 2.0 is too bad. The rendering engine and the 95% of the browser which is inherited from Firefox 1.5 is second to none.  Feed Reader and Microsummaries are beautiful. Spell checking is also a fantastic feature which can save a lot of time. And the tabbed browsing improvements are great.

The safe browsing feature doesn’t feel right but in it’s defense it has just landed and I have no doubt the Firefox guys are going to review it, fiddle with it and by the time it reaches the end user it’ll be great.

I hope that they’ll find the Google Suggest feature is superfluous and damages usability. I mean the guys at Firefox have never let us down; during the early stages of Firefox 1.5 I really hated it, but once the bugs were fixed it was a fantastic world-class browser.

All this Google integration is dangerous though, as you say. 

 

]]> By: Xeen http://cow.neondragon.net/index.php/1071-Firefox-20-Now-Has-Safe-Browsing/comment-page-1#comment-656 Xeen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-656 <p>Well, you might be right and I a little pessimistic. It might not be the first time they copied extension code (ok, why not? If it works like it should...) but it just looks like hardcoding those extensions into Firefox. Like a step back, when the DOM Inspector was still an unremoveable extension. Probably they'll add some heuristics later to safe browsing (like in TB) though it would be better if people were actually cautios when surfing the net - as CPUs can't think. Yet.</p><p>xeen </p> Well, you might be right and I a little pessimistic. It might not be the first time they copied extension code (ok, why not? If it works like it should…) but it just looks like hardcoding those extensions into Firefox. Like a step back, when the DOM Inspector was still an unremoveable extension. Probably they’ll add some heuristics later to safe browsing (like in TB) though it would be better if people were actually cautios when surfing the net – as CPUs can’t think. Yet.

xeen 

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